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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:56:00 -
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In-Game Tools Please wrote:We've seen it time and time again; the rant thread about why these forums are this and that and why no one likes discussing things on here. This post will contain no rants of the sort. It will contain three simple points: 1) The fact is many players hold the opinion that these forums are impossible to discuss anything on because the trolls/griefers/haters are never dealt with 2) This happened today https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=351796&find=unread3) It also happened yesterday. And the day before. It happens every day on here. Most importantly, it will happen again tomorrow. Discuss.
Hope you brought flame-retardant clothing friend.
Time for gamers who love EVE to say this stuff belongs elsewhere. We're better than this. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:56:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:1) that's nice for them. i also think that all criminals should just be shot instead of being put in prison. do you see how what people think, and what's a good idea and/or true are in no way related? (note; i don't actually think that, i was just making a point.)
2) i assume you have a point?
3) still not seeing your point.
Be wise. Go away. You're better than this, Mr. Stark. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:05:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:I'm just trying to figure out what he's whining about.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=351796&find=unread
I'll post it again. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:07:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:yeah, pasting what he's already posted doesn't point out what he's got against the thread.
You can't see it, then I feel for you. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:12:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:yeah, pasting what he's already posted doesn't point out what he's got against the thread. You can't see it, then I feel for you. clearly, nothing is wrong with that thread. otherwise you'd have pointed it out rather than going for pathetic personal insults.
Like I said, go away, this thread isn't for you.
GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:15:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Like I said, go away, this thread isn't for you.
is it a local thread, for local people?
No, just those who find cancer jokes distasteful. You like them, great. That's why I feel sorry for you. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:20:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Like I said, go away, this thread isn't for you.
is it a local thread, for local people? No, just those who find cancer jokes distasteful. You like them, great. That's why I feel sorry for you. remind me where i said cancer jokes were awesome.
I apologize. You didn't.
But you pretend to not see it.
So now you see it, what's your take? GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:25:00 -
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Goodnight Mr Stark. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:35:00 -
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Not online...an alt?
GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:47:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:I posted the single idea I ever decided to share with you ignorant people right here in General Discussion. This is where the most opinionated and harsh people live. It survives that, its probably not that bad. First response was from some dude who didn't cut as ISD, but still wants to be one.
Whats more: My post got moved to some backwater forum called F&I!
Trolling occurs in any groupdiscussion. Its normally something like; "cos doing X will work" being said sarcastically.
Forums and anonymity removes a large part of the need to be polite. You're not in the same room, you don't know each other etc. Some still stick to it, others embrace their new "freedom" and let go of any pretense to be civilized.
If we move things the other way around; Somebody you don't know, will likely never meet and whose existence influences yours in the very small way it does through EVE writes an "unkind" remark. Or even worse; goes off-topic....
If that's too much for posters, then most discussions will be out of their league. The rest of the adults will see a very large amount of cool responses and interesting replies. They will also accept that a mass amount of trolling may be in fact a way of telling "this is a bad post bro".
If you want to be told you're awesome and always right - talk to your friends.
What exactly are you saying? GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:01:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:[quote=Yarda Black]I posted the single idea I ever decided to share with you ignorant people right here in General Discussion. This is where the most opinionated and harsh people live. It survives that, its probably not that bad. First response was from some dude who didn't cut as ISD, but still wants to be one.
Whats more: My post got moved to some backwater forum called F&I!
Trolling occurs in any groupdiscussion. Its normally something like; "cos doing X will work" being said sarcastically.
Forums and anonymity removes a large part of the need to be polite. You're not in the same room, you don't know each other etc. Some still stick to it, others embrace their new "freedom" and let go of any pretense to be civilized.
If we move things the other way around; Somebody you don't know, will likely never meet and whose existence influences yours in the very small way it does through EVE writes an "unkind" remark. Or even worse; goes off-topic....
If that's too much for posters, then most discussions will be out of their league. The rest of the adults will see a very large amount of cool responses and interesting replies. They will also accept that a mass amount of trolling may be in fact a way of telling "this is a bad post bro".
If you want to be told you're awesome and always right - talk to your friends.
What exactly are you saying?
What is in the post I'm in game right now, feel free to convo me
GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:02:00 -
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Webvan wrote:In-Game Tools Please wrote:1) The fact is many players hold the opinion that these forums are impossible to discuss anything on because the trolls/griefers/haters are never dealt with Then why post in GD? Oh to get more thread views and posts to the threads? Or some activism thread? Like people do with their ideas which they put here to get more views rather than putting them in the ideas discussion forum? There are other forums you know... I mean like the thread you are complaining about, a GD thread, the OP is trying to ask a direct question to CCP, which is just not going to happen. 'How dare other people post to the thread?' People like to screw around in GD, nothing new. Maybe post in one of the more serious sub-forums that best fit the topic? I do it about every day, plenty of normal and bland conversations going on in the forums. You're just trying to make troll bait here it seems... about everyone trolls eventually/sometimes to some degree (even if not breaking the rules).
You too. Take it in game or shut up. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:10:00 -
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Or enter chat about why there are gay people like stark asked. Good to know hes a troll. EDIT: I screen capped it Mr Stark. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:14:00 -
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Webvan wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote: You too. Take it in game or shut up.
hehehe see trollings... And it's true, people get all upset if things just don't go their way, not what they were expecting. Then they get all out of whack "CCP didn't answer my special questions and I only got these stupid trolls boohoo". Well, these are community forums, act like it. If you want to ask CCP questions, send them an email. I have in the past and got my question answered, some server questions. If you expect too much out of forums you are just going to get all upset and make silly threads that wind up locked. As for newbies, there are the newbie forums, and usually really helpful.
These forums are for gaming, not cancer jokes, don't you agree? GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:You too. Take it in game or shut up. You're not making any sense. Why should he do either of those just because he gave a perfectly good answer to your question? And why should Yarda Black who gave an even better one?
Really Tippia, cancer jokes? You got a spreadsheet for that?
I am pissed. Next month is a crap month for me, due to cancer. Tell me why I shouldn't speak out about it?
OK. I hope none of you lose anyone to it. It sucks, bad.
GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:18:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Webvan wrote:In-Game Tools Please wrote:1) The fact is many players hold the opinion that these forums are impossible to discuss anything on because the trolls/griefers/haters are never dealt with Then why post in GD? Oh to get more thread views and posts to the threads? Or some activism thread? Like people do with their ideas which they put here to get more views rather than putting them in the ideas discussion forum? There are other forums you know... I mean like the thread you are complaining about, a GD thread, the OP is trying to ask a direct question to CCP, which is just not going to happen. 'How dare other people post to the thread?' People like to screw around in GD, nothing new. Maybe post in one of the more serious sub-forums that best fit the topic? I do it about every day, plenty of normal and bland conversations going on in the forums. You're just trying to make troll bait here it seems... about everyone trolls eventually/sometimes to some degree (even if not breaking the rules). You too. Take it in game or shut up. Hi. Are you the OP? I only ask because the post you reply to is not directed at you, but you responded as if it is, and further, as if the post was some sort of HTFU link. Anyway, back on topic... "The fact is that many players hold the opinion".....[CITATION NEEDED] There are trolls on the internet, yes, there are trolls on Eve-O, there are also bad posts on Eve-O, the OP is claiming that the reason only a few % of people go to forums is because of trolls....and that no-one is ever banned. If this was the case, then you would not get so many bad posts because individuals avoiding the forums because of trolls would actually read devblogs and the "useful" forums, and not be surprised by ingame mechanics. There is a report button for posts which break forums rules. Press it, send a report, then if you feel a post was a troll one, for the love of cake, do not respond to it, further taking the thread off-topic, and, feeding the troll. If you think people do not get forum banned, then you are not paying attention enough.
FFS. I'm me, not the OP, not IZ. This is a forum alt, for obvious reasons.
P.S. Your comment didn't inflame me, thanks for the non trolling response. :D GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:53:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Dave Stark wrote:yeah, pasting what he's already posted doesn't point out what he's got against the thread. You can't see it, then I feel for you. Wow IZ, are you really that daft??? Hey look, another illegal alt of Infinity Ziona. You should actually be permabanned. I hope you weren't the brightest light in your family...
Not IZ. Jusr not morally bankrupt. Besides, you made a post earlier about someone making comments about your grandmother. I hope you get 50 more years with her, not joking.
Report me for being IZ. Go ahead. When I'm not banned maybe you'll see. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:56:00 -
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Tippia wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Really Tippia, cancer jokes? You got a spreadsheet for that?
I am pissed. Next month is a crap month for me, due to cancer. Tell me why I shouldn't speak out about it?
OK. I hope none of you lose anyone to it. It sucks, bad. I already did, three of them, with a fourth having a fair chance of going that way in a couple of years if it comes back. That doesn't mean that what you said makes any kind of sense and it does mean that you are massively overreacting, especially to the people you were responding to since they said nothing about that disease. I don't care if you're pissed or why. All you're doing here is trying to pick a fight; you're trolling. If you want to get the frustration out of the system, just go smartbomb Jita IV-4 or pick a fight unannounced and above all realise what you're doing and why GÇö don't start projecting it onto other players.
Cancer jokes belong in GD?
OK.
On the topic of cancer in your family, I'm so sorry for ya. But we disagree here.
Best wishes. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:12:00 -
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Tippia wrote:D20 Cyberpunk wrote:Cancer jokes belong in GD? Says who? Again, you're projecting.
Why post then, just move along. It doesn't concern you. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:21:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:OP posts a thread on trolling
Which gets derailed from the start into a discussion over percieved cancerjokes in other threads making any discussion about trolling impossible.
Nice troll D20
Report me then.
You too Tippia. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:09:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:D20, I think your crusade in this thread borders on insensitive. Can we just drop it? The only thing I'd accuse Domanique of is perhaps bad humor and terrible timing. In OP's linked thread there are a lot of irrelevant replies, sure.. but what bothers me is how many of the relevant replies are wrong. People should really refrain from posting answers they aren't sure about, or at least qualify their response with the uncertainty. Like Riyria said on page 2 the off-topic posts are usually short.. and anyway a lot of the time they're funny (to me) and relieve stress.
Sure thing, "we" can just drop it.
Please, tell me how I'm insensitive? Speaking out about disparaging comments, which affect real people, in the real world. I have Asperger's. Constantly struggling to decipher social interaction. Can't for the life of me see how making a comment about getting cancer from a forum post is fine, but arguing against it is not.
You seem a real nice person. So do me a favor and explain it to me, pretty please? GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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D20 Cyberpunk
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:53:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Mithandra wrote:In-Game Tools Please wrote:We've seen it time and time again; the rant thread about why these forums are this and that and why no one likes discussing things on here. This post will contain no rants of the sort. It will contain three simple points: 1) The fact is many players hold the opinion that these forums are impossible to discuss anything on because the trolls/griefers/haters are never dealt with 2) This happened today https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=351796&find=unread3) It also happened yesterday. And the day before. It happens every day on here. Most importantly, it will happen again tomorrow. Discuss. Using "Discuss" in this context out side of an educational establishment should result in the perpetrator being stoned to death. Even in an educational establishment it should result in extreme censure. You've posted We've read As you've posted and we've read, we are going to "discuss" without your order to do so. Oh god did I just do a Ramona? So you wish people death because of that. You're not right in your head hu? And Sibyyl... you're hilarious for a wannabe good person. Good luck taking IZ seriously.
I'm not IZ. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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